Matt Greiner vs John Otto — Drum Gear Comparison | MetalForge

Side-by-side gear: Matt Greiner (August Burns Red) vs John Otto (Limp Bizkit). Kits, cymbals, pedals, sticks — compare specs and prices.

Frequently Asked Questions

What drum kit does Matt Greiner use?

Matt Greiner uses Mapex Black Panther Design Lab with Paiste Formula 602 (14" Hi-Hats, 16"/17"/18" Crashes, 22" Ride, 18" China, 10" Splash). Matt Greiner plays a Mapex Black Panther Design Lab kit with his own Pearl Matt Greiner Signature 14x6" Steel snare and Paiste Formula 602 cymbals, driven by a DW 9000 Series double pedal and his own Vic Firth Matt Greiner Signature sticks. John Otto plays an Orange County Drum and Percussion (OCDP) custom kit with Zildjian A and A Custom cymbals — a groove-oriented setup that delivers the punchy, pocket-focused tones Limp Bizkit's hip-hop-metal crossover demands.

What drum kit does John Otto use?

John Otto uses Orange County Drum & Percussion (OCDP) Custom Type 5 Acrylic with Zildjian (13" A Custom Mastersound Hi-Hats, 16" & 17" A Custom Projection Crashes, 20" A Custom EFX, 20" FX Oriental Crash of Doom). Matt Greiner plays a Mapex Black Panther Design Lab kit with his own Pearl Matt Greiner Signature 14x6" Steel snare and Paiste Formula 602 cymbals, driven by a DW 9000 Series double pedal and his own Vic Firth Matt Greiner Signature sticks. John Otto plays an Orange County Drum and Percussion (OCDP) custom kit with Zildjian A and A Custom cymbals — a groove-oriented setup that delivers the punchy, pocket-focused tones Limp Bizkit's hip-hop-metal crossover demands.

Which is better, Matt Greiner or John Otto?

Matt Greiner and John Otto both bring genuine jazz training into heavy music, but toward opposite ends. Greiner channels his jazz-informed dynamics into Grammy-nominated metalcore's odd-time complexity and compositional ambition with August Burns Red. Otto channels his jazz education at the Douglas Anderson School of the Arts into Limp Bizkit's syncopated, hip-hop-infused groove, giving one of nu-metal's biggest bands an unlikely rhythmic sophistication. Both prove jazz vocabulary translates into heavy music in very different ways — Greiner through technical precision, Otto through pocket and feel.

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